Western Carolinian

              ' -. r n ppi i ///•; ... salisbl iiy n c tuesday novrm ki 27 1827 vol viii no .: i '".■'"■ _ ,,,,■ .. , ,. . ,, rntic famil i '• i , . tion ; i however distinctly recollect thai narralivci lo have paid more regard lo i a serin ■ . : ,-... , ! m « si 1 -' '' ' ' ' ' ;'*;; '".„''.'.'''', '',',,' i did i helmvs.ll ni libertv io doubt we bo,h expressed n anxlojs hope that our relative positions at the several n tl ■ nt.l i '*"'" [ v j .*.*.',' j |" ,.,',| n . | ,'. ilh , ( n hai won hi h in ■ . 6 ,■■■•, .■ . ... i : irv of the west wniih nol separat bom pen meetings to which he b.-s reference ind | ihi ■ many nf those ... inknown o mr adams's adn.inisinninn i rnnsider svlviml i have no recolleciion wha.ri even the su , i , what pas ivhnvoto | ., b.t.tor ind ■ ,,- r ol ih.t i these intmrnls a pledge was or ol having urged m d lo see lien scd bciween us reiving upon thc recol sirotls that he , i „ ; e ,... s the payment given lo tho nation thul the policy which lacksc ithough 1 concurred in ihe i ion ol mi buchanan a lo datea i ,-,..■■, ihm , „ •'■, ■ , , t , t .,,„ , vi ir h '"""'•'- ' '"- ' l " "- " ''""' had been pursued undci former dmiuis propriety of his , tiggestion that he should ' '■ -' there was a conversation lelwccn upon him p„i "* v't'-rl's ."•'. ii ,,',' : '. ''.'.'•, i .-', '■■' ..■>, " " i " lls w "" 1 ' 1 '"' pursued undci the pre call lo sec him i nor have i lho faintesl mi i ks and myself on the si ■■ i i orations an i wni never see him suffer ','"" '.',,,'.■",',',.", .', ',, ','., ii ,,.,.•■, sci • i tle.cn nine i therefore that us a recollection of any ihinitbeing said about th i'n identbd election the morning al from devotion u her best im r i j f o ',.„,.. "..,„. ',.',.,..' ' rcprcsen hive of ihc people and ai neol isluing mi adams'i friends with theli mr hi buchanan had called io see me 1 i urn free lo acknowledge that ot the 11 lett ra . ', l '.. ' e ,. lib , mu ,, p o do 1 w i ■ i nut 1 1 i mil m | u own w , i t any bui h espr i ion p rh ilj w ii rem mb r ai 1 i have no lime ol the i nnvc n hi iv , en mr flue . ...■ "..,/, or the nay no attended lo liiiljtles mv disnp inttnenls or my pre were used 1 hiti veiy certain ii was nol ' : hat in th se of hai convcrsa hamin and mvself my impie ion vb —■-■-■ '*' ' —~ -— ,„ o ,.. ,,,,., t | ,,, , ,,| ,„, ,.,.• .. ,„ ,,, * ,„,. i'rom the recolh lion i have ol * i t gen jnrkson's pros lhal get ackson would be elected and mi mallkl.i'.y ,,, , patriotism hill that 1 . uill the conversation lo whi h m bin 1,-nsi is ol ll el were i n fact wi il wa piclty generally talked of as well ' ' " '. i ,...._„,,.,;,, . the administration b i i rence is i letter i iblic both ex ves nnxioii t ■ ndcrslond among , anv nf hi mends », i ., , . -,, ..,,,. 1-t , ,. • lined o support and sustain thos 1'ih mini ujust last my imprcsiiotis his succes i distinctl recoiled m ihainitl.ee \ bis election mr clay , , ,' ' ' **■ i ,,,,,,,, , lm , ( | systemwhich promote ire lhal lho obiecl ol hi visitthatev l • rem irking lhal much hide id i • the nflice of secretary „- r **" ,";*' ■ * , , l pro»pe,i,y american manul - was to tir t e the pro iy en o urse mr c v '. fiiond , i i duub n but i mav in com me bilore in " l j j lure irrtern.l improvemems ind com coing mi cl i him mv would lak „ expiessing his belief ihat i moil wil is have mentioned mv son implicated „ a some vv y concern „„, .„ cherish peace and ud i , , s .,, ih m , 1 his hen v woul lwi.hu i replied that opin iral friends these ?\'\™ j 1 ? jn l,doe „■• i '*'*'■ iwilhadueuig lo ing himself with i insupl incer 1.1 go will n in.le.l e heliel * .*. ' i ,., . ■ . ... i : • i fi ' i i i i'ennsilv-ni 1 „ i a e , nl i i . es „ uld nil in ! m ; : ;;* ,' s ";;' ' * *. ":;, 11 ..„, .. .* r u . - 1 : * * ■■ n -, ; " ***' ; ,. ',"* , ',' ', p , :... ,„ ■ ..,., : ■■■ his par de mnrr gi lif i 1 slat „ z l zr:z z .'■'.'. -,-». ' " i "'■ ■=■.««/.'. ihe idbeeh : * " ' * * " * ' 1,1,1 iiw.s.niilii , ■ 1 1 ■ o bo id sp .. reria ppnnili real vol stall mi kick , it ■' .-,..,., ., ions o ihe w....rih > h.i.li.n ',"."*,"" i 1 '.'.. . ..',.,.-,....■ assdlocn.jaci '_ ; , „ ,.,:,. - - li 1 ,,. , , lhal i in reserve ! thav have given rise m a o ',:•■•■".* , ,,,,.. ,„„,.,„ |,„.|.,, f gen jack 1 1'residenl i that be , bei i , all i id or did i m quite willing •'"' lu-ney win h has been direct ■.;,■' ' , * ,'.;,,,. r ,., ,, , upo n him the ap chuicc il , „ was clc ed i known •*•«"«"« *' ■'*..' .;,.,..'.,.,,■„!,.;',:,:,:, i ..'. ■ * " ,.-■•, .. - •■ r.rei.rjr - mcf.wasi „ f fennsvlvania or zzz-u-x zz ■' , z : :•„ p en.ie.hr - * i i rth .'.:, „ li.miteo'f slander tbi.tl sh down i pending r,esiden,ia election m 1 , ,,„,,„. ,„„.,„„, ,,„„ „,,, „ "•>■« '»■ «■• * ml 11.1 un my nbjecli of higher nature a desire commenced by staling that he felt great i in ion tha pennsylvani idprefe 2'x m '* z dnnvs.-lfjiis so .•. ■ ' h hid fo he elect ol general .;. clav's appoin ■„„.,„ lo that of an ' ,, , '. ! ' " v " pprarcd n ihc na lolleeiion and judgment , pernii lackson d thai losl'ni ■!-. , ,„,.„., is ire ol slate end ', • .' m ihirencer ll nee his nt id the truth and tl irmh en hoi hlc ineam i p ole ll ; to ,,,,,„ ihe nbliga-ions ihe general wa un „„...,, , ' '" ' 7 * ',* ''" ' '"»" ".*'". -" be'te mv fellow cilisens i do i.ol hope which i replied til lily united , kr , 0 l'ennsvlvania that he would go ... v *' '■ < h * l * e * "'" ' ' mv peculiar in • l>y ty thina 1 cm s.v however t 6 b wiih him in opimnii mr llurlmt n . , ., ..,,, her wishes and that therefore it must be pparcn ll • ' ■ i .■ ' en ngemen.s lep lanl loryvdroiirlusive inpropiiis.c nnv ol-verird io tin rumors then afl-iui mat he | p | i v ih e general if elected would ' ai e uld b„ve m ". ; ", nrmigh not he elected my scmjes personal i poliiical ni hie friends or mi idams we,e holdin , im mr l„i i have thus given ihr s imputed lo me llu it wi mil l '' *'* ceo hen a conversation with shall lorthal oi anv n puip c ou the ide t ill rase he should b !, nvei „ 10 , , mniially as il look place pens ble ib it should bc distincilv un » particular li lend who travelled v i mo turn frc b f ml fair examinaiion of elected mr < ildpi . he ol he one mi b has reference i hislde i ihai mr isark was amlmri i " - ' * > umlo etinsylvama r.i.-i p.,r ,,, ,,,.. :,..., r he gentlemen > fered the sittiuttoi ol c-cr i-et-u y l .... e r o ihc public of the b'h of august : hi - i kson io re ive prnj i , loliim in r course ol thai romorsa who have r . , ,. ■.,,-,; i , : .:.., nd tha se uencd ■ .-. , |, „ ' u con versatioi of rather a to pt-uitoie his ircii h this i „, •' regret t , ■■ ant duty as relates to mrsell i could elected he would appoi r comi i . , , ,... promiscuous character in no v ei c i.oi men * pi miv ot a r re , and general have wisho o have been spared ibis up mi adams secvlary ol lma,c i told , li h be holll paiticipalc i is up or did i 1 any lime or o any one usi -* ! * ion will mi lay on i bo siibjec peal.but it i n „ longer a mailer or choice mr buchanan 1 thought s ct , a teporl l hr ,| s „ r ,„. n yc „ r , s i c e that conve,s thi si on ian |, imputed i mc b e r cm i clio i said ihat i might hav heen persuaded to permit raleul.„ed lo do hie general a grcal i n , took place and conside.ing it or ,- j mi is.cks i well remember lhal al ; ' ' some id lo him as ihe errors an inaccura esor.m buch deal of inju nd it il were not well rivatc and confidential character i made that time w , clisve.l ■ • * ■' ■■•*' oinsiown iv am nd mr 5 cks arising from a want lonnded,i ought io h o.u.m.ii ed ,,„ u , 0 0 |* i nor did i mpc.ii on brliel i era lacks ■ j nxieiv thai mr clay ol recollecllot , 0 pass unnoticed i and mentioned i , that there , ,, ,, heen given to the public iiicl cd and hi uld no ■ with ' vote win i iyln in froma desire iche ot peace i might even plausibility in tuch rep s and ll t theii i smnewhai rcmi ible that two vears out the aid ol mi clay and i , fuends i,xre on has h ken to my olter have been contnt to overlook iheir un receiving cicdit p ni i uld have elapsed mr buch ha he would bc pp ed i thanks when mi kindness but when majoi eaton on ropresemc i genei 1 lack aving „ . lll(1 m . 8t |, i mgelheral the *■" ' i'urthi r mr isacks declared his ' , ,- - ' on re ■ fmm l kpca thcir showing pesumes to call me " tl delei i i hi drl be i , , .,.,„.■:,,„ „ s sessi in wl 1,1 irrcd ihat a la 1 such a icsoluiion it negotiator in vial he re s to be he would continue mr d.u . r lf flongress during which period we had , *' cslern del iliun fi bad been cu ionian „ ... end f . eon a corrupt irunsation i on imperatively " ! s 6 inasmu h as i i mv conversations on the subject or ihc thc iinrcseived conversation w bad had gn , ,<> offer nd the house lo adopt a bound lo sp.-ak _,„| 1 will speak lhal been one of his ablest defend i - ;•,,,„: ; ,,, ; election as well as on public on the suhjeei wished mi flay to be | it did on s cc sion dmos with pel which i do know ( 0 i irue let the vocatcs in his report sustaining gcneiu m r private matters yet nol once in all ccieiarv ol al in whi d ir he i t unaiiinit i - i ni ivn voluntary bl.unc and , ond mnati n fall where it ■'■" ''•■'" againsl the ch rg s ivbii li were ,,. ,, nm ,.. i,,i ir , v |, u i j,r buchunan were join - a i t • porii i tin ci i bo il eon with my one ought ; where ii is merited but not on ]«, - 1 rred against him for his conduct iu , u ,. ,„,,, ,, , , i conversation which h ib leg ion horn oil bi ii i nor hi i icncc to bis rso rue telation to ihc war has recently thought himself called upun '",' la.ksons's clcciion i is ii iced pi ei.tial el ; i nltered if those were not r.iuivcs sufficiently m buchanan stated that hi bad will ive as having taken place between us -• faci hat amongst he irien.u , be re lion bora el gh he emi powerful there is an whi , would i.e to or letter i „., nii.al i ' • avoid thinking ,. somewhn nl 11 he can s ll.c.e wa ., nent i i en d 1 ll be as a speaker determine mc vn eitort ,.- ., ,,,., ,,,..,.:. i nib *' at mr b should have been s peculation on he subject much was sal did no richly earn a vnic of il s who ihe use nd the huae ol ,' n i u j , i , i hi ; r ■ id mi i , i l reserved toward mc particularly as dulfl unreservedly and with much zeal and hall presume to think he i pretensions wound the ch ler ol ... .,. .. green had been furnished with « state good humour on the a.ib,cct ol cablliti „ ho hi banks of the ablest ond most exalted , ,,. and b lermined lo cull upo r in i her ibs ol what had pas vl lai ih.l > lb er lhal can ous , - i he presnlcrl for a fai.h accusations which i believe i , i f-,,,n uell or to i-et maior 1 .... ed between general jackson and him.cu i did.te succeeded to thc \ residency thc l i pariial cis.h.ugc ol tho ded.andi ,' i ... , i bore no hirn the re ihat wee ii i i.l.ii.in und that a statement had also been fur general voice was raised in fai nd lut.e of t he slatio hardly earned p l,l nk t ..,: csiimi : ,,| obtain if h ou n - 1 ' * o him by maj eaton in august i ■ he general eye dways fixed upon lhal nd wilhi i waideil i hough it his :, '.., wn from ihe lieiuli-.s which iihem mr b also a.l ir i had scon ihc purport of the comers distinguished states •■ ibler due even lliough he h 11 -, 1 lr they have bono i tied and in their mi cla mil whether i had had nv 1 * bctwcci himscll and mr buchanan publi ," henr ' lav is lhe li.slolticei i ciinsylvania inihe ch of a 1 resident pi io put those wl 1 regard os ! conversation with him touching ,„ e i that these movements shot i.ve lake of ih ivcnnie ; and i now s.neerel i cd him much lor his indel hsving i ■'.,!; inclpl a lav ; , residential electiuu 1 eplu-.l thai ! pi d ihat there should have been no believe ibat which li ,„ ne rxe „ in i-or ol he i . determi ion to purs ,, of poli ha „ 8c en him in the house but had hud cuncert improperly lo drag me i s had i heed be would ha c i i -, itercst ,,„ yd 1 cv which i have no woubl conversa.i ll hi , ihat i ■- -",'■''* ler all i lies er ol the most pro il i promp me to offer alfeotth pr pe - , i ,. . l ,,:,,. i w.,s , ri , lances ill b should have bee * n c - 1 b i ow i rtoteoircnt aid a wl !. lunity to bavi aiionwiilihili lent toward mr and that he shotil ' i mi ■''. .' * ■ n ii,,,„s,l an undesen cnion , , , proper to inlrnthi c to ihe publi rnsl li lion itrrcne.c oi thatlws oiii-lnally fricndlv to the with l'onnsvleania mr buchunan iled conversation in which he ■ ... r i ton is pi i '■ i man election or gen -■ i i'icsidcn !*"■' i e r.-lt more ini.s „ a me say al i himself little or nothing ... ' wn talc cy i ,'-, nut den '*■ - b , *•■ ■• , nl pi i - ■■■■■■ i so.,s ll an i i did h'unsi ii " 1 *'* 1 "" "" * llv unnecessary i , . 7 ,,| ,„ m.ke pt sitio „ o ask a •'," ' ' im , ' in nost is ludc towards him fir his mill t ic that it was impon.nl no onlv us ii n tl pi.rposi of sustaining an indivi.h ., , oiondcl , lot :., '■ .' -'• " i ol the to bis country remain i all c rdcd 1 he sucess ol general jacks « , as lu protests he always acted on v c of j clay ai l-ie id e , one who in nd in eacr had i ,, i him in thi rlecl a 1 ';, , ,,; , ,, i his own auilorily-do to me and prob , ciiud nd p„-i re ilia ' ■"■ " ' - ' ' - ut always i ui • ucusof 1824 s a rrp pennsylvania but on account or his ultc bly il to the public seem sonic wl ., o are void ol *"' ?' ) - ungi tho rcsentiuivcnfl'en.1 rania i s , rior political prospects declaring thai bc >'" ""'.- 1 ' 1 '* it gives me pain lo think i never di ei oectly oi i '*' ,'*."", '"' ly not o.-!y gave i ,„• vole hut used m ii hnped lay io see mr ci ., gs especially as h ,| r , receive linn m la ' i my hcsl exertions by ry lair and lion i'lesidei.t of ihe l'niied stales and that emanated mm a person lo whom i feel , iei..ls nyiniim ,, id i -•" ic y *'' " "' ' oivble means lo promote his election to was miher reason why bc should like to | obligations al fiicndsbip for ads ol km v.-i m'obutal r.cour inn ' ' •! ., , r i 1 thc presidential chai i'l inited ex see him t reiaryofstaie.ine.se ness and in whose i lup i reposed ml m.ni „„., or an thin cvel •' i ,?,,,,.. '-',', ' ' " ., i .'., his biends bavin i iled f jackson i '. , i lhal ll he wa ' '■ ' * '»' * '* *' ' .*»" ' ' ■ , . feet hi el -. i - ■ hosece ha mr clav's views were favn ph suemdlnq tahcr.he ci , , endued .,',,. whofell it a dm n lb gl i , ,,,. able x.ocn lackson inn he w.,,,1 "" »'-"> *'* hu hanan i me ,. cd 1 i * mmc.li.tcly lo unluil the staidard nf'tuke i opnmtuniiy of lalki ;: : ' t ' * m the ii ■ - main * v - -,,.,■,, opposition without knowing hi prlnci jucncral u e subject ur gel mr katun : e house nl iteptcsentatncs ','.,. : ... , i any c„iivers.,i pics and the policy ol the n n who were i lo do so ; that he ihought by doing so he ] let * lion ' 0 - ' able me to stale w bell vi i y i r him iy or i pre id lb lu f.ir terms sul to bc called o assist in cl istci ing the | would cotilei u purlicular henrfi |, i8 .',- it w,.s at his seat.or in he lobb „ , i i peak ol ■ , i ihc 1 ..... be .,,„■ i ., try d hat he could see noil l -'■'■•'■ "'- !| .* 1 ' 1 h -" ! » s >" u ,"-''*• lams or mr raw :. li 7 bv n i wrong in ,, it !:,„ han.ui urged me i '" ,! '"" lo.d thai he sl wish in he secrelai ' or i a i no delav in seeing mr clay i told i may here bc permitted i "'< ion in th abi n hi , t epiihet have ':.:. '... k n < rtcd it cii nol lu.n i « ul and according call ur isacl ring a uallv of mom i j ' '' sci m lo e that i h called upon to r mr clav at his ding house i think v cniinly l'a the district 1 rep 1 anv tiim i nnv occasion ... bi.t rmbarras an w llu d hie evei q,fte this conveisalion bill esenled in c'ongi in curl ui;hl mlnistratiun whel er it i ii hi hi as mil this lodging i culled to mv aeon iiiiaiicr in ibe sessiun ol ib23 ' - i or wrong i thought il mv dun e 1 i .| i but he h„ri some of his nd 12 . ■'. -■ , enversuti n - eiiui thepail ueci nr i no cviiiencej , :,, b j_^s_^j ,.,..... . citizen paltently to ' i ■•■ '■,,.' eonvei ing isttt him 1,01 h.,,1 i loliirnsclt and in which i took an iti'cfl '•.:., versotioti wiih him until lhe es and io the best of my ability and opl ■■: , lid evening ol lb loth ni i i jatniur poriunitii ml h fa iii erved him thesj the niplexinn ot his rahiuel lu my leaving ',* .,■ i ,, : i bi conversation - nil produced 01j when i ascertained lh.il in h k , ivania in attend thc courts in | intiinac i friendship which frcquenil d such ublc and ex | in " '. - i'hc conversation brought us , i i even into i mi clay mi i oi i south i then had wiih tiim was of a very get bit of free fiicndly and unreserved d mi harbour men identified wil i character ; no mention was mudc ol ronveisaiinu the conversation which hi republican illsiiluilo i'mir ccttntry cabinet ppoiiitmetlts and i did not uscci j he represents lo ll .■ ink . pi cc in i t pea .- and in war ; men wl i en ain which ol he candidates m clay ivteen us i t . rc re joy til ihc confidence of the li uppn i have no n li smelly niisapprchm 1 or much mi tdiniiiitlralion ol * : : j.ll'irso hi id in the conversation represents mc \ ■.- u '• gen madison and mi mi c i men who lull will 1 hu uu n aboul the lricndsul.il is siutcnc cr do ... rated will '*':•■. moving in center -. ■.■'.■ ,...., ..... . . .. ',.„, ll 1 l,_,i„n that the ,. iv i alt i .,, which it ban , . oul on ibis ji i den.i.d r 1 ol maju i , ; : ,,,; know until ten da er , i an i the n ■< a as elc , i i adam , lhal mr clay to ' •'■'■ " - 1 '* - ' nl ctn :! ■. il the app inimeiii 1 hi inn ........ . , ... | c mid iii awellkn lie i i i nan indign ly ,,.,,. in uffei be con se si i 1-e in in i y i i i ii wl etl.i-i h imby hen nl ll iving uld not acrept i llet.,1 nvei uinti he di i me h im in tin it mi l ' •■ ■ i io hold with no nil iii subjei ' ' i i i ,, ,, opt un ■ ol , '■ ul i be i i ■ ,, nol rnib i