western carolinian iv salisbury n c tuesday march 30 1824 no 199 debate in the legislature of north carolina on mr fisher's anti-caucus resolutions pitilo white c the laws of the united states of the western carolinian will ls follows : three dollars a year exercised without a question of their right or authority so to do we have indeed no power to control the legisla tive will of our members in congress or to prescribe what shall be their private de portment whilst at the city of washing ton yet we have notpjily the right but it is our imperious duty to convey to them an expression of our opinion upon any question of public moment and which their conduct may have a tendency to control ; but still he did not question their power of determining upon the course they might pursue in relation to our re quest or instruction by either conforming lo the legislative will of their state or by acting in contradiction to it ; but for this as well as all other acts of their public conduct thev would have to account to their constituents one of the resolu tions under consideration called the at tention of our members in congress to an amendment of the constitution of the united states so as to provide for the election of electors upon the district plan throughout the states in providing for the election of presi dent and vice president by the interven tion of electors the constitution had re moved it one degree from the people themselves and in adopting the mode by which the electors shouid be chosen he should prefer that which would be most likely to produce the same result as if the ultimate vote were exercised directly by the people this he thought was to be attained by establishing the district principle it was also to be preferred from its tendency to secure a more gen eral vote by inducing the people to feei and exercise a deeper interest in the re sult of the election bu ; ; when calied up on by the genera ticket plan to vote for fifteen electors situated in different and remote sections of the state most of whom must be entirely unknown even byname to the great body of our citizens it can not be expected that thev should manifest any solicitude to exercise their constitu tional privilege but wc may be told that the standing and character of the candidates for the electoral appointment will not be sought after by the people and that they will content themselves by knowing if elected wlr 11 they will sup port for president _ but gentle ip&n ksy would it be the practical result : the people have and will continue to require some knowledge or proof of the integrity and ability of the individuals whom they are called upon to employ as their agents in a business of so much importance mr s concluded by remarking that he should vote against the motion for indefi nite postponement ; and if it did not pre vail he hoped to see the resolutions so amended as to make them agreeable to all who were friendly to the principles which they contained had plead to heaven in vain but jackson plucked from the conquerors at barro3sa and rodreigo the last and brightest wreath of american victories over eng lish discipline and english valor the triumph of the american rifle over the british bayonet — a victory which for con summate skill and heroic valor will bear a comparison with the brightest triumphs ofthe revolution and which placed an drew jackson next on the page of amer ican history and in the hearts of his coun trymen to the immortal washington whilst every bosom yet throbbed with kindling ardor and tears of generous gra titude streamed from every eye the chris tian hero offered up to hjeaven his thanks for his country's safety the war was gloriously terminated and the honor of our country redeemed ; the vain boastings of british invincibility and the grumbling echo of internal treason hushed why was the last war glorious ? it was glori ous in principle but without disparaging other brilliant achievements of our coun trymen rendered chiefly glorious by american tars and the victory at orleans if at the period of this joyous jubilee of freemen andrew jackson had been an nounced as a candidate for the first office in the gift of his country breathes there a man amongst us who would have with held his vote ? has he ever forfeited his claims on his country's gratitude ? no no his subsequent career has only filled to overflowing the measure of his fame it has proved that the sword and pen are alike in his hand " the club of hercules routing thc legions of britain and con founding the diplomatists of spain it has shed around the bright halo of the in trepid soldier the milder splendor of the polished statesman from the mouths of his cannon has he proclaimed our vic tories and with the resistless artillery of reason defended their justice once more has he protected our defenceless frontiers from the merciless tomahawk and as governor of florida wrung from the avaricious grasp of spanish treachery the titles of american settlers of his civil and political career we can give you but a cursory view attorney genera of the south western territory when that territory became the state of tennessee ift^de^n^kiefi^iarfofmed her con stitution her first representative in con gress and the succeeding year a senator of the united states judge of her su preme court and at the close of his mil itary career governor of florida in every office whether civil or military he has displayed an intimate knowledge of his duty and the most ardent devotion to his country's service one word as to his politics he has ever been a firm and inflexible democrat the unyielding champion of democracy in sunshine and in storm not the reluctant convert driven in from prostrate federalism monopolizing the rewards of democracy and in her sunny days reaping the yellow harvest which jackson and his co-patriots have sown very late from europe new-york march 11 the brig emerald captain fox has arrived at boston in the remarkably short passage of sixteen days from liverpool by ibis arrival the editors of the commer cial advertiser have received a file o the courier tothe 18th andthe liverpool mercury oflhe 21st from the raleigh register mr shepperd remarked that it would ever be to him a consideration ofthe high est gratification that the right of election of president of the united states should be secured to the people of the several states composing our union ; but while he admired and applauded this feature of the federal constitution he thought that there was too much reason to apprehend that the great body of the people upon whom in times of public peace and tran quillity like the present the general government has only an indirect and al most imperceptible operation will he found to manifest too great a degree of indifference about the election of their chief magistrate for whatever measure of excitement may pervade this house while engaged in the discussion gentle men may rest assured that little if any of that spirit will be lound lo possess their constituents at home from this belief ofthe temper and disposition ofthe pco pie upon the important question involved in these resolutions be conceived it his imperious duty to guard against all those measures that may have a tendency to withdraw from them the fair and impar tial exercise of their constitutional privi lege in a matter of so much importance lents « ill be inserted at fifty cents r the first insertion and twenty-five li subsequent one addressed to the editor must be they will not be attended to cheat brltaiv in the house of commons on the 17th of february lord nugent submitted his motion for the production of the instruc tions given to his majesty's plenipoten tiary in spain during the late war and his correspondence with the spanish cab inet in respect lo the mediation of bri tain he urged the unprincipled conduct of france and her allies the benefit she derived and the disgrace and danger pro duced to england by the late contest the motion was opposed by mr canning and mr struges bourne mr canning explained that owing to the unforeseen circumstances unaer which sir w a court was placed he was compelled to act in a great measure upon his own dis cretion the amendment of mr bourne declaring that throughout the whole contest ministers preserved their neu trality inviolate was finally carried by a large majority the number being 171 against 30 the king continues in good health and gave a dinner parly on the 16th ell known jack dolphin t atet-y owned in south pf hi carolina will stand at our yjj stable one mile and a half . j from concord north carolina the week sunday excepted thro n ; the season to commence the and end the 20th of july 1 be let to mares at 10 dollars the nav be discharged with 8 if paid ison 5 dollars tbe single leap to n and 15 dollars to insure tbe nicy to be paid when the mare is bc with foal or is parted with by itting her particular care will be s left in preventing accidents c asa thompson george cry m 2.1 1824 13i'03 ell known jack 2 el f fox ta te the property of judge a murphey will stand tlie ensuing season commencing on the 10th of march and france this kingdom continues in the enjoy ment of prosperity and tranquility the day for the meeting of the chamber has been fixed on for the 7th april — the day on which the french army crossed the biclassoa .- loth of august at my stable on seven miles south-west from char 1 bc let to mares at three dollars ■>, cash at the time of service ; five did hc believe what some gentlemen insisted upon that the nomination of a candidate for the presidency by the mem bers of congress would be inoperative upon public opinion he would not have ttouhled the house with the expression of his sentiments on the subject but as had been observed by the gentleman from rowan he believed the nomination at w ashington had heretofore uccceded in securing lhe election of the individual re commended the practice may therefore be regaided as something more in effect than a harmless expression of an opinion ; for as it has had so will it continue to have if not a binding at least a powerful influence on the people of this country suppose said he that before we leave the city of raleigh some one of the gen tlp.meo > n nnminoli/\n f u rj " i should be proclaimed at washington as the caucus candidate what would the ma naging politicians of the day say to those of us who might still be inclined to sup port some other candidate ? we should then hear much ofthe folly and inutility of throwing away our suffrage by bestow ing it on one who we should be told could not succeed for the want of a cau cus nomination ; and though for one he should not be disposed to listen to these sage admonitions and would support his friend though he might stand alone in such preference yet it could not be doubted that such an appeal when ad dressed tothe public consideration would have no little effect in determining the vote of the state especially when we bear in mind the melancholy fact that the people have been and will continue to be too indifferent about the result : in such a state of things many will be seen to de cline giving their votes whilst others will be found to join in the support of that candidate who would not h ive been the man of their choice if they had been left free and uninfluenced by a caucus nomi nation he could not therefore agree with the gentleman from beaufort that the preamble and resolutions now before the house were merely designed to have an effect upon the candidates for the pres idency he did not so consider the ques tion but regarded it as one that had an immediate reference to an important con stitutional principle and thought that the adoption of the resolutions would go to censure and condemn a practice which in its exercise has an alarming tendency to a usurpation of the rights of the people by making the election of president a mere matter of bargain and sale byfunau thorized individuals as washington city the gentleman from rowan in open ing this discussion had expressed a wish to modify the resolutions so as to make them more generally acceptable to the house ; but this opportunity for the pre sent had been denied him by the very unparliamentary motion ofthe gentleman from halifax should that gentleman's motion fail the friends of the resolutions will so amend them as to make them convey a mere expression of the opinion of this general assembly on the practice of congressional caucuses what right we are asked have we to dictate to our senators and representatives in congress considering the resolutions as they now stand and unconnected with the propo sed modification mr s observed he did not consider them as holding any thing of a dictatorial tone but as respect fully conveying that instruction and re quest which the legislative assemblies of our own and other states have frequently son payable 15th october next ; to insure a mare with foal which sd due whenever it is ascertained is with foal or the property the paris papers attack with violence the speech of mr canning on the an answer to the knig's speech the quo tidienne contend that allies have a right to assist the mother country in snb jus ting rebellious colonies and accuses eng land in being governed bv motives of in terest england say they did not inter fere to prevent france from marching into spain ; but feels alarmed at the idea ofthe interference of france for their pos sessions » — e jl h vk'ivr7'stciron the 1 4th and it tv.-ij believed he could not live a month quainted with pallifox and have from him it would be useless to mere ; suffice to state he is a ■-. and his mules are large and icare will be taken but will not hot < m james dinkins j 1824 lands for taxes \ ing tracts of land in llurke coun je sold at public sale in the town n on saturday the 22d day of iless the taxes due thereon for the d lfloo -.». j r : a i • onging to george thompson 100 n ward's branch for 1821 zabeth thompson 150 acres tying ihn smally 60 acres lying on the iv creek for 1s21 ii 1822 : conrad lyons 100 acres r creek hn adams 137 acres lying on the in creek ivid bandy 70 acres lying on thc dy creek imes m'cown 100 acres ty ing on france and spain it has been mentioned as a rumor 3 that france had made an important de mand upon spain in respect to a new organization of its government a lon don paper of february 18 speaking upon this subject says : " we now learn from an undoubted source that the ultimatum demands the establishment of a repre sentative form of government and a gen eral amnesty the re-payment to france of the sums laid out to procure the release of ferdi nand is made a secondary consideration the recognitions of the loans of the cortes is not demanded by france ; but it is suggested that some indemnity to the holders of the bonds would be proper with this ultimatum orders were for warded to the french minister at madrid and to general bourmont to take proper steps to enforce the representation of the government — that is to withdraw the troops in case of refusal the answer of the court of spain was expected in paris on saturday the hth of february ; but at the latest date the 16th it had not arrived m'cown 14-0 acres lying general jackson m'kenzie 100 acres lying further extracts from the address of the illiam twigs 100 acres lying on muddy creek ilomon williams 200 acres lying of muddy creek imcs branch 100 acres lying on upner creek nielkeelv 200 acres lying on the vail chael funchcr 150 acres lying on canoe creek sse smith 80 acres lying on ca enjamin wise 80 acres lying on paddy's creek illiam davii 200 acres lying on john's river and loose creek nn iteeder 50 acres lying on the se creek icob johnson 260 acres tying on eek md 1822 reuben stallions 200 n the waters of loose creek zabeth winkle 111 acres lying on loose creek ivid sinjrerfelt 100 acres lying on the south fork of catawba m'combs of new-york 18,550 n tbe eastern boundary of burke ited for 1822 m brittain sheriff 1824 8it05 pittsburg meeting having we hope clearly demonstrated that it is not only the right but the duty of the people alone to nominate a candi date for the presidency ; the question now recurs to the claims of andrew jackson for that distinguished station the limits of an address will scarcely permit us to sketch the outlines of his civil and milita ry career his fame is the rich patrimo ny of the nation and its living monument speaks in the gratitude of his fellow citi zens his patriotism is not the transient exotic that springs from one victorious field but commencing with boyhood has strengthened with increasing years — when in the revolutionary struggle the arm of british tyranny yet reeking with the blood of his ancestors basely butcher ed at carrickfergus was raised against his native country andrew jackson and his two elder brothers volunteered in its defence at the age of fourteen he fought was wounded and a captive a pri soner languishing in a british dungeon with ndconsolation but his patriotfsm and no companions but his chains ; his two brave brothers weltering in their gore the one murdered piecemeal in a prison the other fallen in the field ; his widowed mother sinking under these complicated misfortunes into the tomb and andrew jackson the last of his race permitted by british tyranny to survive to avenge the wrongs of himself his family and his country need we picture before you his gallant services during'tfie las war they were a rapid series of victoria without a single defeat unparalled in history — thousands of his countrymen rescued by his skill and courage from the savage tomahawk and the british bayonet pro claim their gratitude flushed with re cent triumph the invincibles of britain rushed to anticipated victory the city of new-orleans rich in wealth and beauty was offered as the prize of conquest :— " booty and beauty was the vandal signal of attack and the cries of helpless females froth the it t watch toweh speedy justice on tuesday morning two young men offered a note for s600 for discount at the central bank and obtained the mo ney thereon they immediately took seats in the eastern stage then about to depart ; but on account of some slight grounds to suspect all was not right they were pursued by the clerk of the bank and overtaken a short distance only from the village whence they were taken and brought to this village the same evening they were indicted for forgery by the grand jury then sitting on wednesday ; on thursday morning were arraigned plead guilty and on saturday sentenced to five years hard labor at the state prison and took their departure westward for the state penitentiary at auburn notwithstanding the confident asser tion of the morning chronicle it is sta ted positively that the court of madrid persists in its resolution to attempt the recovery of its transatlantic colonies and trusts that it will have the good wishes if not the active aid ofthe allies in the prosecution of this undertaking spain does not however refuse all concessions and consents that the trade to the whole of her ex-american possesions shall be thrown open to the states of france england russia prussia and austria it is staled from warsaw dec 26 that the jewish rabbis and elders have met in a general assembly at platskow and have decided that the celebration of the sabbath shall be changed to the sun day the king of sweden has nominated prince oscar the king's son to be vice roy of norway letters from corfu say that as soin as it was known among the inhabitants ofthe ionian islands that sir thomas maitland was dead the priests repaired to the chur ches in order to return thanks to the most high for having delivered them from a governor more injurious to them and to the cause of greece than a turkish pa cha the following are the names of the members from north-carolina who re : fused to misrepresent the sentiments of their constituents or to give countenance to dictation and intrigue by attending the radical caucus at washington : nathaniel macan robt b vance john branch henry w cornner willie p . mangum john culpeper fayetteville observer ntation for sale ibcr offers for sale a plantation on now resides 3 miles and a half , on the lawyer's road containing lere are on this farm good build ids ; tlie necessary quantity of til ldow land ; a good well is sunk , tnd an excellent spring on the ntation and improvements will y conditions for furdier partic thes subscriber on the premises jacob jul1n 24 \ it'oor burning in effigy — the chillicothe pa per of the 19th ult informs us that on the preceding evening the people of that town assembled and burnt all the members of the legislature from that county in effigy excepting one together with the clerk of the senate what produced the ferment was the non-election of judges cook and armstrong in particular ; and it is un derstood also that nearly all the legisla ture have done this session had prepared the public mind for this burst of indigna tion piano for sale second-hand piano is offered y liw for terms c apply \ michael brown 16,1824 93 a letter from paris dated the evening of feb 14 states that a consultation of phy sicians had declared the state ofthe king of france to be dangerous and that it was improbable he could outlive the month of march en tailors 2 or 3 journeymen tai ikmen and steady men steadv employ will be wm dickson ii 18243 3it09