october 2 1778 the number 44 s tforth-carolina gazette with the lateft advices foreign and domestic semper pro libertate et bono publico miniftry hs believed and indeed it vtas nnt very furpriiing they fco-ld lor they found ih^emfeuea vigoroufl oppoied bv the ml ci2i v.i theii rzvoarite pr j.rl of inoepwndence mioiften had endeavoured to afltn the rights of parltaineht ; co^'jd parliament n :: aner wiflj to rem v them for having bs<»n their champions ? l^-u.j parliament cocfent to fuch an indignity as to chano the xain;liry whei e».r africa fnnu!d think proper to infut onlt r — to be always rtady to receive a mioiftry from the colonies to be their tods thiir n.ere agents the xt^u:cr3 of their vilj mr fax aofwered with i»is uiuii ability and lireng h of arj»u rnent and obltrved that he daought that goce the time of old ci2/y the dodii.ic oi tc(.caia omtiia junt faria had been expl d-.'d 1 at he mould not bavc thought ths honourable gentleman had fj particularly been given o trie oax»ms of that order as impli citly ta adopt them ; for that hi himfelf fuw i«rea cifterence be tweta the grievances if there were sny in i)e declaratory act and thofe which had been the caafe of the prefent war iiir cuil u'.ay thought there was not fuch a precedent to be feun.i in the journals u ihe houfj of commons a that of coin luifiloqers having power to dii'mifi roinillers mr aubrey laid ihat he believed the lall hcnoor&blc gentle man ifij^ru find commiiu oers having power of difm;£bng mir.j v^i and ihit al ... v uutiag r tii repe ! - ' z ] \ ad whatfi e^e io k*jumepage of u»c j urr.al ; that do:with2andicg what th right ii.n gciidemat l a''7<5 hi.l faia " of all fets of nsea b-.ii alike tj the atnuicans he could a&rt from authority ihat ihe congrefa haj repeatedly declared that they r.ever would treat « i.i clf prefent fet of mil iilers ; which svjo a ibong impli ca::..r hi laid thiic iicy wuald treat v»i;h another ; that whe ther thsy did tl : ir imitation only of the magnanimous rcibia tions of our miaillcrs ihai they would never treat wirii the con grefs he c^\i.\'l not tell ; that h j*evtr as the deknda ejl carthago li«u been a favourite maxim on the treafory bench when england had ihe fu^-eriority h thought it might be re fun ably exptct-j that the cfy of the american w uid in r«*turn bi at leait the t;.i;:s;i<i jti of our miciltors ; that policy cireils us to take everv itc r i to regain i:e aj]:cti s of the auuricaxs ; but that it couid not c hoped i~r r.i ij were entrurled to ttiofc hands bv wljich t!)t:r countr uu.1 been ravaged and their frisnds and relatioss maitacred »:. .: unlcfj it be fuppofed that the nature ol a wh c people c'u d change as fjciii n as trie ccrducl of tac n h!e lord i nortq had d ne the american would not bi gin a negoiiattcn v i.iij the prefect uiiuiilcis ucrein power mr 3:nk iaughid it tha idea of the iodigntty of changio the adminiliration : he a&cd ihe right hon member if an aci of par liament was not of more coclequence than a minilter offtate and yet ads of parltamedt had rjeen repealed here was an in dignicy which bad u^cc uuii no oppcfi.ion : the right hon gen • rii an had pocketed the greater off on t ard m-tvie a buftieascut the leffer one this v^i t burle.'qas i:,d.;td he then proceeded to fhe c probability thac a t.).a cii rjge c men as well a meafuref would beinihudoc by the americans ; as they hsd no reafca j expr«tt that men who had fo often betrayed a hearty citiire to deftrcy them c r c'a be i.ncere in their proieffi £ friendfkip ai.a the ihew they m?.de of n dciire for peace he therefore freni a convitiiun uf the nectffity of the meafure mov tu na meft bcarcily c:-"c-;rrtd wi:h the h^n u'abie member who rnadi the motion which he was reiblved to fupport with his i london i house ./ commons march z i w jgy r fames luttrcll furprifed the miniftry by a i 1 h cry fu den hiuck which was di.edrd f»lc i b y 3.x them a r cr a fhort intr ducljry f^etcii i / n e m l ° e t<ie f f j*iny motion i f h '* * " ut aii - ilirni l cd.(f a te prrf ntej f h v t>il h s n>&jjly m^ft humbly tr defi.e that he will bfgracicufl ple-fei to inftruft thecom r.i'isonerf whom his rrjaj ft may name for thr ourpofes of car rying into execution an ud t-j enable his majefty to i-ppoir.t icmr.nfiionets with fufficiecc powers to treat confix asdagrec jpon the mea:)s of c uict":pj the di orders m w febfiftm 2 in certain of the colonies plantations and r r>vir.cts ti ' n.,>-:b imerica — that in tal ui the aid cornrniui tiers ifcjll bod the euiuinu incc in < cue 0 any u'.iic minifter 01 miniiters of the crown of grtat britain ball we fou.ij to imprea fuch j.al-tncs or mif truii in cne or mure of the rcirg ei colonies as may tend ma:c rially to cbftruft the woxk of peace and fmceie conciliaa cn between great britain and the colonies that th corr.hius^ners uirtv be eiiubkd to promife in hi rr'.je^y's name thr removal cifuch mtaifter or uiinifters from i'ii r:j«-:j.:lj's c.>iincils mr luttrell in fu-pport of h motion exprtit d . i.u.-lf wi.h great cii and prcpriecv ; i.rd n dc ui of rticr.v co^ti a.gu mtot to prove the hititicucy of the bills juft paifed ur.!efs ths c mtiitf iers bad t'»c propuk'j addinciial po.^cr granted thi-m ii inftiaictd lord chatham a;.i ulh.r gr<at miniit.rs i prove hat unpopularity d:d net confcquectly b.l.'og u the office of fill mil iittr mr y jabzftcne feccr.cl'i h motioa with lais ilrjng and pctrioent obfervaii ms si i iie:rge savillt 4ariiiiy tcconuci the rr ti^n ; and from the ccn^ir.j.jiu^.ijj i.j-iunc in vthi-h the prefent miaiitry had always t;eattd the colodiet he declared i to be hi opinion that the a'ner'uahs wi uld nut agree tc any terms pr:*pofed u..l.-r vz au 1 4 ices 0 men who had invariably proved thcxuftlvcs a be their meft bitter enemies if the america oi uld ic oil on a change o njiniiliv 22 a neceffa y prciimioaiy 10 \ treaty without whi i jey were dettrtnined never to treat with uj he comoaiffiocefs taeo will be able to eater uj mi n > bulioef ; they mull end ba :; fjf fxefh icftrudions tb nation v^iil be plun r:m > a vafl ex percc b the dt jd \ ; not cr account t f the fasaiies oi thecommif f vrj ; nlv but b-xauff the t!---!a mull create a r.ecctliiy to keef ip at a i nger time tlte nambci ot tioc v.c have n w in pa . li would therefore be prudent to olviate this i!;;iic-!:y y ainiing ih cumoiiffijdcrs with ju'l power t the americans if they infixed on it that tht mioillers fh uid b removed lord bcoucbamp got up next in the courfe yfhis fpeech he faid that he tbj:tlcd to the i^ldu ci proceeding ; cl:rti g that the on!v parjiamtatary cr.e was to addrefs his m»ij-tty to gilaiui thf fe mleifters whj wtie oji^us co the people r iufjeded of dal-ajmjoihration mr i"v eppofed tv-e motii-n firoogly it would be he faid the nunl humiliating circumftance 10 g.u britain i!-:;r:i-'a vho ha liven the bril advice to their bvei'tijrn ii'..y could ar.ci who would have leen deemsd the moll able ftatcfmrr if their ne&fures had been at.ti.d a with fucccfe thoold be facrifceed to t'i whim and caprice of ihe eclcaies the americam bated e voice